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Route before the Bridge?

According to cbrd.co.uk, most of the M62, M18 and M180 opened only a few years before the bridge, so what route would drivers have taken before then? The A63, the ?? and the A18? Dupont Circle 19:25, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I don't know the route numbers, but I believe you had to go all the way to Goole. - Jmabel | Talk 16:56, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You would go over the Goole Bridge on what is now the A614. Getting there using the old A63, which is now the B1230, from what is now the start of the M62, to Howden. Taking the A18 eastwards from Thorne on the A614. Keith D (talk) 21:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Towers

The claim that the tops of the towers are 36mm further apart than the bases because of the curvature of the earth cannot be correct, and I have removed it. By my calculations, assuming the towers to be 15m apart and 150m high, and the radius of the earth to be 6400km, the correct figure is 0.35mm, which is hardly worth commenting upon. mallardview 01:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surely if the bridge is 2,220 metres long the towers are going to be more than the 15 meters apart quoted above 20:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, i went over it the other day and its definetley not 15 meters between the towers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.12.88.86 (talk • contribs)

Indeed. The towers are nearly a mile apart, 1410m to be precise. So judging by the above calculations, it's entirely feasible that the towers might be 36mm further apart. M0RHI | Talk to me 00:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have always assumed the 35mm applied to North vs South bank towers. The bridge towers are 36mm (1.4 inches) further apart at the top than the bottom to take account of the curvature of the earth. Martin Spamer

Reference 5 is now dead and I can't find anything relevant on humberbridge.co.uk. Can anyone find a definitive source for this? Adxm (talk) 08:47, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the original link with the Wayback version but it is just simple geometry. If the two towers are 1/40,000 of the radius of the Earth tall, they'll be 1/40,000 of the distance between them further apart at the top than at the bottom.Cavrdg (talk) 11:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Of course a geometry calculation will produce that result, however this is referring to the real world and the actual construction accuracy. The calculation assumes a true radial for each tower on a perfect sphere, and the construction to be absolutely accurate. No construction technique could achieve this level of perfection...... Pure bull ! If I may quote Nick (above) ".....cannot be correct, and I have removed it."....well Nick, it's still there. Shaun Walton. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.154.147 (talk) 18:13, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Height

What height is the road level above ground level? 195.171.79.148 (talk) 14:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History

Perhaps it is just that I am old enough to remember it, but wasn't this bridge, the economic case for which wasn't absolute (as proved by the relatively low traffic levels compared with the Forth, Severn and Dartford crossings) ordered by Barbara Castle, then Transport Minister, to ensure that Labour won a by-election in Hull in early 1966. I remember it in the papers at the time but can't source anything - can anyone help? Bedwasboy (talk) 06:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Debt

How much is it in debt? Tom Green (talk) 12:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very late but interesting nonetheless. Funded by a government loan back in 1981 of £150 million. The loan now stands at £330 million. Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13773791 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.154.162 (talk) 18:13, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious

Following moved from article Keith D (talk) 14:30, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Factual error? According to Wikipedia's own page on Rett's, it is unlikely that boy fetuses with the condition survive to term. The news article cited refers to autism.
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Statistics

Is it not relevant that the Humber Bridge is the lonngest bridge in the western hemisphere? Maybe it is a little parochial, but to half the global population! What says y'all? Mark Beard (talk) 18:20, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "Western Hemisphere" is North America and South America.Eregli bob (talk) 01:32, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Western Hemisphere is the half of the planet west of the Greenwich Meridian. The Humber Bridge is 0.4 degrees west of Greenwich... but no, I don't think it's a relevant fact. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 07:18, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Abolishment of the tolls?

The text says:

A public inquiry into the tolls was held in the first week of March 2009. The final evidence for and against the tolls was heard on March 5. Throughout the inquiry arguments were presented to independent inspector Neil Taylor. The evidence for and against the tolls is to be assessed by British Transport Secretary Geoff Hoon, with a decision expected in summer 2009.

So, what's the current situation? Does anybody know? --Dionysos1988 (talk) 22:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is this from August 2009 about the government rejecting proposed increases and referring to an earlier public inquiry but that is dated in 2008 so cannot be the same thing. Keith D (talk) 22:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, what a pity. Let's hope for current news soon. --Dionysos1988 (talk) 19:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Construction of the Humber Bridge

I am a real fan of the bridge and it is only recently I have come across this page and I have to say in parts the page is very good but I do think there is a big problem and I was appalled when I noticed to my horror how little information there is on the actual construction of this wonderful bridge and I was shocked to see how few photos there are from 1973-1981 from when the bridge was built. Now I am not sure what is the best approach to this but I have a idea in mind, My first idea is to make a separate page so we can with as much detail write about the various stages of how the bridge was built and also to put in new pictures which I am hoping to upload but I don’t know how to do the copyright ect as it would make the page much more powerful as well as a great resource for those wishing to look up on how one of Britain's greatest civil engineering project took place piece by piece as there is very little reference on other websites on how this happened. I can’t do this on my own so I ask publicly for your help and your opinion so we can make this page a real success. I believe the Construction stage of the bridge is the most important chapter in the history of the bridge should be fully recognised as such and also was also one of the most important events to happen in the Yorkshire/Lincolnshire/Humberside areas during the 70s up until the bridge was opened by the Queen in 1981 and the fact there is so little reference out there makes this so sad and not ever be forgotten. This should be a top priority! (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 14:27, 13 December 2012 (UTC))[reply]

You are welcome to your opinion, of course, but writing with such emotive terms won't endear you to people or further your cause. You are very welcome to add more information to the article - it doesn't need a separate one - but please ensure that everything you add is properly cited from reliable sources. I'm sure other editors, myself included, will be willing to help, but you need to be bold and kick it off --Bob Re-born (talk) 16:58, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Add additional references in place of {{fact}} templates
Standardise on the use of units & convert remaining enties to metric/imperial as required
Introduce non-breaking spaces before units

Keith D 18:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 18:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 18:27, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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this article needs more references

There are lots of paragraphs in the History and Toll Update sections that do not have citations. —howcheng {chat} 07:56, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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inconsistency in length of world record

In the section about the world record , it states the Humber Bridge held it for 17 years , before the opening of the Akashi Kaikyō Bridge. But in the 'bridge statistics' section it says 16 years, claiming the Great Belt Bridge was opened in 1997, which doesn't fit in with the article about that bridge.86.138.45.7 (talk) 12:14, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I spotted that too. Modified to remove mention of the Great Belt Bridge, which according to List of longest suspension bridge spans and the individual bridge articles, was opened a few months after the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge in 1998. 185.41.233.36 (talk) 18:36, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Corrosion suppression by dehumidifcation

The Bridges cables are dehumidified by a rather specific process.^[1]^[2](presumably all year round?)

There should be a separate section which elaborates further on this process.

References

^ Christodoulou, Christian; Bulmer, M.; Cocksedge, C.; Wilkinson, D.; Cooper, J.; Hill, P.; Austin, Simon A.; Goodier, Chris I. (2011). "Humber Bridge: suppressing main cable corrosion by means of dehumidification". {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
^ "Humber bridge Dehumidification – The Spencer Group". thespencergroup.co.uk.

Humber vs Humber Gap?

On this page it says the Humber is the name of the estuary. On Humber Ferry it says the ferry bridges (I believe that is sic) the Humber Gap. It is not immediately clear what the subtle difference in meaning is between the Humber Estuary and the Humber Gap. I presume that the Gap refers to the geological formation, and the estuary is the water that happens to fill that volume of space, but it seems unusual to make the distinction at all. And it would be less confusing if the article on the ferry just said that it crossed the Humber estuary.

64.222.87.62 (talk) 21:48, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please add the used materials

I have a project where I was studying this bridge and I needed to list the materials used in the construction of the bridge so I could continue to proceed in the class. I dint find it. I looked on seven different websites. What the heck bro. 216.110.254.8 (talk) 14:44, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Christodoulou, Christian; Bulmer, M.; Cocksedge, C.; Wilkinson, D.; Cooper, J.; Hill, P.; Austin, Simon A.; Goodier, Chris I. (2011). "Humber Bridge: suppressing main cable corrosion by means of dehumidification". {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)

[2] "Humber bridge Dehumidification – The Spencer Group". thespencergroup.co.uk.

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