Talk:The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
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[edit]- The lead section needs to summarize the whole article, so it needs at least a sentence explaining the plot, I mean is it a sequel to the other Zeldas? is it the first? the last? you could also add the release dates on the lead
- However Link could hold his sword in front of him whilst charging his sword and could "poke" his foes. this phrase at the end of the paragraph doesn't make much sense, are you referring to the 3D incarnations or to this game? If it's the first then it should go.
- The Game Over paragraph on the Development section is original research and it says nothing about the development of the game. Do you really need to have a whole paragraph describing a glitch?
- The last paragraph on Development could use a source, but because it is comparing plots I guess I could do without
- Roam bears a very strong resemblance to Jet Link, AKA Cyborg 002, of Ishinomori's classic manga Cyborg 009. - depends on the point of view, needs a source
- I'm not convinced by the whole Chris Houlihan room section, it needs to be more consistent, shorter and sourced
- The music section obviously needs as much clean up as Chris Houlihan
- I read both sources listed for the first sentence on the Critical reception section and neither says "excellent graphics and complex, well-engineered, intriguing gameplay", this sentence needs be rewritten, it's too weasely
- no {{fact}} tags please
- On hold for seven days, then I will take another look.--Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 22:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I cleaned up the article. The original nominator has retired from Wikipedia so I have taken the reigns. Gary King (talk) 00:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- Done, thanks a good work! --Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 08:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Merge in Characters article
[edit]Please actually look at the article before voicing an opinion List of characters in The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past As you can see, if trimmed down slightly, it would fit as a characters section, a totally appropriate section for this article and eliminate a stubby article with basically no notability. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Fair enough, but I'd prefer that it be trimmed down before merging. I don't want to see it merged in its current state. Gary King (talk) 18:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Very true. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Good trim, though I do think that since there is no article on the manga Link to the Past, and this covers that comic, we should probably mention its plot and characters somewhere in the article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- I trimmed that paragraph because I cannot find references mentioning the characters. Just searching for the character name alone only returns 500 hits on Google, with no relation to Zelda. Gary King (talk) 21:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Good trim, though I do think that since there is no article on the manga Link to the Past, and this covers that comic, we should probably mention its plot and characters somewhere in the article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Very true. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Four Swords merger
[edit]I used to think an original game warranted being separate, but FS is definitely of lesser importance than ALttP on the cartridge. I think that the GBA re-release could be summed up quite easily in this article, with a couple paragraphs for gameplay, a paragraph for the significant differences in ALttP GBA, a paragraph for development, and a couple paragraphs for critical and consumer reception. - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- I wholeheartedly agree. I have been struggling endlessly to figure out how I can expand this article to Featured Article status. The fact is, I don't think I can, and this merger would work quite nicely for everyone. Gary King (talk) 07:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'm glad the importance and beauty of mergers is finally sinking in :) Totally agree. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 15:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Someone do it please, so I can get this article off my mind :) Gary King (talk) 19:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldnt know where to begin or what to include. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, can I see hands for people whose names are named after this game?
- Anyone?
- ...Oh, hey, a hand! Mine. :D I think I'll give it a shot. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldnt know where to begin or what to include. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- Someone do it please, so I can get this article off my mind :) Gary King (talk) 19:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'm glad the importance and beauty of mergers is finally sinking in :) Totally agree. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 15:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Article merged: See old talk page here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megata Sanshiro (talk • contribs) 08:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- That just redirects right back here. Rather than just delete it, I'll mention it in case the old page still exists and can be linked by someone who knows where it is. If not, someone who knows for sure can delete.76.226.200.238 (talk) 00:35, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
FA nom
[edit]This article seems very close, with lots of good work done. If we just add references to the scores in the score box, it looks like it will be ready. Thoughts? Judgesurreal777 (talk) 06:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Peer review
[edit]I think this article calls for a Peer review. It has been over a year since it was assessed. Alot has changed. We need to see what stands in our way from this being a FA. I think it looks amazing. Lets see what others say. Who will start the review? I am not good at doing that sort of stuff, and I think someone who has actualy worked on the article should. --Blake (talk) 14:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Split out Four Swords?
[edit]Yeah, I know - awkward that the guy who proposed the merge is proposing its reversal. I think it looks a little awkward, the way it's set up currently. As opposed to feeling like an essential part of the article, it feels tacked onto the end of it. While the single player portion is fairly identical, I think that we could fill out an article with reception and development. While some may be redundant, most especially in reception, we could still provide reception for how it's held up, or for changes to the main game, and of course reception for the multiplayer portion. I mean, we did it with Super Mario 64 DS, after all [though granted, it was a pretty significant DS launch, so it had a lot of developmental coverage and reception, and it had a lot of differences]. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 19:22, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Four Swords is considered as its own separate game by the general fan community, so I support the split. I think it would be quite easy to fill up the page with a nice amount of information, and keep it from falling into stub status. —Resound (talk) 21:42, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- Although I don't know much of the Four Swords game, it could be looked at two ways. 1. It is simply a multi-player version added for the GBA, because of new features that the SNES couldn't support. 2. It is a whole other game tacked on because there wasn't enough for a whole game. Both point towards it being a part of this game. Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't really make it a part of the game. Like I said earlier, using Super Mario 64 DS as an example, far less new content [that could be covered] was included in the game and it made for a very solid article. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- Although I don't know much of the Four Swords game, it could be looked at two ways. 1. It is simply a multi-player version added for the GBA, because of new features that the SNES couldn't support. 2. It is a whole other game tacked on because there wasn't enough for a whole game. Both point towards it being a part of this game. Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Influence on series
[edit]There are already some scattered mentions of the innovations in this game that were taken up in later Zelda games, but I think the article could benefit from a proper section discussing the importance of A Link to the Past in relation to the development of the whole series - music, characters, gameplay. — Hex (❝?!❞) 14:24, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
In the gameplay section the Flute is mentioned as making it's first appearance in the franchise. However, I was under the impression that such an item had already been implemented in the very first Zelda game. Broadbandmink (talk) 22:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- Mostly true; I think that the statement is meant to say that the design originated from it. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 23:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Merge discussion
[edit]I have moved the posts here to the project talk page as the discussion will get more attention there. Prime Blue (talk) 13:43, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Images
[edit]As it stands, there are six images in total of this article, doubling what is considered an acceptable cap for an article. None of the images use any rationales besides the bare minimum. I've taken the liberty of removing the story image and the soundtrack image. I would further suggest removing the Four Swords image. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:40, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
The Faces of Evil
[edit]In the Zelda timeline I'm missing the obscure "Link: The Faces of Evil" (1993). Although the game is absolutly rubbish I think it should be there, like Link's Crossbow Training. More information: http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Link:_The_Faces_of_Evil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.240.40.225 (talk) 09:31, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- I think you can ignore the CDi games as far as the official timeline is concerned. If you check the Zelda CDi games article here on Wikipedia, you should see a sourced claim that they aren't considered canon (or as Philips would say, cannon) by Nintendo. The same for Link's Crossbow Training; I believe it's considered a "what-if" rather than a canon game. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 04:00, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Source
[edit]Possible remake/sequel? This is just a heads-up. Probably too soon to have a full mention yet. Axem Titanium (talk) 17:28, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- I think you're right, they don't even seem clear on whether it's a port/remake of Link to the Past or an all new game done in the style of Link to the Past. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 02:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Very speculatory (is that a word?) at this point, all it says is that he wants to do something, and no one knows what. Perhaps worth a mention briefly somewhere, but it'd be difficult to phrase. Яehevkor ✉ 10:13, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Stick with your original instinct; don't bother reporting on it until there's something to report. If Myamotosan wants hard enough to do a project related to Link to the Past, he'll eventually say more about it. Until then, all we have is speculatory (I'll treat it as a word) information, which Wikipedia spits on. I would trust your gut, it is a wise gut. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 02:37, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
This article needs improvement
[edit]There are dead links, unformatted references, it really needs a good referencing going over. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
- Also, it uses amazon.com twice as a reference, and has materials at the top of the talk page that could be used to expand it. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Outdated Flag
[edit]Hello, I removed the outdated flag after updating the section. It was on the "A Link Between Worlds" section. Let me know if you have any questions, or believe it requires further updating.Triforces (talk) 16:17, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
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Kako e no Rinku
[edit]Why does "Kako e no Rinku" appear in the article? It's common for Japanese titles to appear in articles about Japanese games because often the English title is a translation of the original Japanese title. That's not the case with this particular game, which has completely different and unrelated titles in Japan and North America/Europe. The article already includes the correct official Japanese subtitle "Kamigami no Toraifōsu." There's no reason to translate the English title to Japanese. Assuming there is no good reason given for keeping it, I move that it be deleted. Druff (talk) 20:04, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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Open world
[edit]Shouldn't this game be part of the "open world video games" category? Because "A Link Between Worlds" is part of it, and both games are very similar.
Collapsible list for release dates
[edit]Is it possible to have the 'show' be a space away from the shown date? There's currently overlap and it looks artless and unfit.
Reception
[edit]This article needs a re-haul on the reception section. It's currently a ball of prose just listing "Best-ofs" and not very specific to what makes the game good or any contemporary reception prose. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:02, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
"Zelda 3" listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]The redirect Zelda 3 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 14 § Zelda 3 until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 15:04, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Seven descendants of Seven Sages
[edit]This Article concerns the Super Nintendo version of Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past. The Plot of this article has a false statement that The Sages are the ones being sent to The Dark World by the dark wizard. This statement is false as the Seven Maidens which include Princess Zelda were descended from said Sages. Anyone who disagree's is most likely confusing the plot from Ocarina of Time where Link did rescue Sages. In Link To The Past, he saves Maidens in The Dark World who are trapped in blue crystals. I had hoped this was common knowledge among the gaming industry, but it seems I keep getting reverted from exposing this by someone who probably hasn't actually played this game. Who has also told me to point out a reference to a paragraph that doesn't have any reference in itself anyways.
On a side note it seems this user has also been blocked before, for frequent edit warring and mass reverts. So since I am forced to once again explain myself, this is what you get! I'm not going to break the 3 revert rule for you, I am going to inevitably wait for someone else to support the argument! Maxcardun (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there. It case you haven't seen my talk page response set yet, reviewing WP:VG/PLOT may help you understand the opposition you're running into here. Sergecross73 msg me 18:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
[edit]- Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • • GAN review not found
- Result pending
This is a fairly old good article and has some issues, namely the following:
- Several sources are applied incompletely. Books/guides/magazines such as Prima's Official Strategy Guide, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past Nintendo Player's Strategy Guide, lack page numbers.
- Some sources seem to be fan-based, such as GlitterBerri's Game Translations, NPhiles/NerdMentality, and McLoz.net
- The second section of the gameplay section has five citations at the end of a long paragraph and should be spread apart to clarify what the citations are trying to clarify.
- Some statements, such as "Like Super Mario World, this game used a simple graphic compression method on the Super NES by limiting the color depth of many tiles to eight colors instead of the Super NES's native 16-color tiles. The tiles were decompressed at runtime by adding a leading bit to each pixel's color index. Storage space was also saved by eliminating duplication: The Light World and the Dark World are almost identical in layout (though using differing texture tiles), and the Dark World exists in the ROM only as an "overlay" of the Light World." don't seem to have a source.
- The reception section does not have much detail on its initial reception, only the Famitsu content I added earlier this year. Most of it is just listing various "Best-of" lists the game was one, with very little critical discussion of what makes the game good or work. This section has been tagged for expansion since January and has had no real work done.
With all the above listed, I believe the article fails WP:GACR6 sections two and three on reliable sources applied appropriately and lacks coverage of the game's initial reception. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC)