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Archive 1 - Feb. 11, 2005 - August 18, 2005

Nuclear power phase-out

Why do yoy propose these countries? They are not even considering nuclear phase out. --Trigor 08:47, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Answered at Talk:nuclear power phase-out. Ben ^T/_C 08:54, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Marcel Duchamp

Hey again Sparky. Just wanted to say your Duchamp article looks pretty good. Ben ^T/_C 05:56, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Ben! It looks like it might be rather long. Though, I think I'll make a separate article for readymades. Most of the Duchamp images will likely be deleted from wiki soon, since they're on commons as public domain.

BTW: the "art factor" we discussed earlier... check out The Creative Act by Marcel Duchamp. (1957)

>>sparkit|TALK<< 17:38, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I just read it. So it was "art coefficient" and not "art factor." I found the text at the installation in Yokohama a bit more inspiring than that text though.

I had some free time to thoroughly read the Duchamp article and some of the "sub"-articles (a lot of which you created I noticed). I had a very good time.

The article is not that long as you say. I saw you have still a lot of material you want to add about Chess playing, readymades, etc. I think it's only getting more interesting and if it gets too long that's what wikilinks are there for, right?

I found it extremely interesting to read about the speculations that his readymades were not really readymade. If that's the case and he didn't tell anybody then it's really a great joke! I put the image of Da Vinci's Mona Lisa next to his Mona Lisa in the Duchamp article. They differ a lot actually. Please do more readymade articles, if you can. I want to read about Mona Lisa (Duchamp).

BTW, please wikify your contribution page. You make it hard for people who actually want to read what you wrote.

Ben ^T/_C 05:41, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, there is a lot more to add to the article and readymades will definitely be a separate article. Thanks for your interest and support! >>sparkit|TALK<< 15:19, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear energy policy

Hello

Thank you for your comment about Nuclear "phase out" copying to nuclear energy policy. First of all I would like to explain myself. All in all two paragraphs have been copied to nuclear policy article. One is part about Netherlands. I copied it because old one was just an old version of nuclear phase out paragraph that I updated and moved to policy page. I do believe that that article is good for energy policy. I think that that one is an exception. For example it would be wrong to move Sweden as article on policy page deals with several aspects. Not just phase out. I felt that Netherlands paragraph could be moved there.

Second one was about nuclear security. Security standard. Again it was copy of old version from nuclear phase out or vice versa. That one can apply to both articles. In other words arguments against phase out and for nuclear are more the less the same. Same goes for vice versa. That is not truth however for other parts of the article.

--Trigor 11:51, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I see your changes make sense.

I am under pressure of people who want to merge and split the two articles all the time so I am very cautious to keep them apart a little, though they have to be written more or less in parallel, with different foci - not an easy task. My idea was to have all the info first in nuclear power phase-out and then move relevant parts to nuclear energy policy and summarize them in nuclear power phase-out. Ben ^T/_C 05:07, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Ben. I meant notify you about this the other week (but forgot) - Four Corners, a reputable Australian Broadcasting Corporation series, had a programme on nuclear energy, or specifically, the contrasting debates about it in Sweden and Australia. You should check the "Who's Afraid of Nuclear Power?" transcript. It might be of some assistance. Happy editing, --Cyberjunkie | Talk 06:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Karl Kraus

Hi! I noticed that the Karl Kraus english page is really poor, while the german one it way better. I think this huge author deserves more, can you translate some of it? I'm starting to work to the italian version, but I can't speak German. --Mauro 22:41, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I put some more. Ben ^T/_C 18:25, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

link to scale

At scale space you created one or more links to scale. Since scale is (as you would of course expect) a disambiguation page, it would be better to link to one of the articles listed on that page. Michael Hardy 23:18, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint. I changed the links so they point now to more appropriate articles. Ben ^T/_C 00:35, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

{{unreferenced}}

Thank you for adding a related book to article on Ukiyo-e, however, there is a difference between references - which as been used to provide facts for the article - and further reading, which has not. See Wikipedia:Cite sources for more information.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 03:39, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment, Piotrus. I am not sure, whether it is right to just search for some references (and on-line in amazon.com what is more) as I have done. However, the Wikipedia:Cite_your_sources guide is not completely clear about it. On one side (from the word) references are from where you cite. Then (on the other side), references are where other people can verify the information, similar to external links, but not the same (do you agree on the two meanings?). With this latter sense in mind I put the book as a reference. I also think I saw this practice with some other article (forgot where). A problem is, conceded, I don't know the book. But then, I think, the information in the article is general enough to be found in nearly any book on the topic (and the book I put seemed reasonable enough). What do you say? Ben ^T/_C 11:30, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

I admit I was once confused as well, and added sources to references without actually reading them. Now I know better, and I try to teach others that there is a difference. A source which may contain useful info, but has - to the best of one's knowledge - not been used in the article, should go either to 'Further reading' or 'External links' (or 'See also'). 'References' is only for sources that have been cited in the article, and the best practice is to link the relevant facts from main body to the reference via Wikipedia:Footnotes.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 16:01, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Piotrus, you wrote:

A source which may contain useful info, but has - to the best of one's knowledge - not been used in the article, should go either to 'Further reading' or 'External links' (or 'See also').

Leaving the concrete case aside (where I even don't know the source), the guidlines in Wikipedia:Cite_your_sources are not that strict: (citing)

In general, even if you are writing from memory, you should actively search for authoritative references to cite. If you are writing from your own knowledge, then you should know enough to identify good references that the reader can consult on the subject — you will not be around forever to answer questions. The main point is to help the reader and other editors.

I don't want to argue about the specific article (ukiyoe), but I want to get this straight for me personally (and I think it is very important for your project also). I hope you don't mind my insisting. Thank you. Ben ^T/_C 17:31, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

I guess rules may need some improvement. My rule of thumb is if you are pretty sure it is a good reference, explaining most of the issues of the article, you can add it even if you had just read the abstract. Google Print is pretty helpful here. However, as I wrote above, what we should idealy strive for is referencing every fact with footnotes (but I realize it is quite impossible now, so I am adding this tag to the articles lacking sources, not those lacking footnoted sources). With educating you about our references and you adding this book to ukiyo-e, my effort has already paid off somewhat :)--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 17:47, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm. I agree with what you said about footnotes. As for ukiyoe, I'll hope we'll find a book. I will search some more. I wish you success with the project. It is surely worthwhile. Thanks for the clarification. Ben ^T/_C 21:00, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Regarding Neural Networks organisation

Hello there, I saw your edit and comment and so I was wondering what is your opinion on the current Neural Networks article. I made some improments (I hope) recently - and I added as extensive sections as I dared on neural networks in AI-related applications and on the modelling of real neural systems. Do you think I should remove some of the AI related stuff from this article and move it over to ANNs? --Olethros 23:37, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I think the article should be not much more than a disambiguation between artificial and biological neural networks (the reviewer from nature was probably ignorant about wikipedia and the artificial neural network article, he was supposed to review instead). The article could contain something about the history of ANNs and a comparison between artificial neural networks and neural networks, nothing more. IMHO, the article now contains far too much technical information about ANNs that belong in the ANN article.

I think your edits were very helpful in clarifying the language, shortening the paragraphs, and adding references. :) --Ben ^T/_C 12:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Culture of Asia

Hi, I saw some of your minor edits, which were better than the major ones (smiles). Please continue to up-date the edits, particularly done by me. Thanks. --Bhadani 14:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Comment about popup disambiguation

Hi Male1979. This is Male 1977 (older, so you better listen :) I have a question about this edit. I think there is a bug in the code you use, as there is no reason as far as I can tell to insert an underscore in links. Wonder what you think. You can reply here. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 19:51, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Oleg. I just saw it. Doesn't make any sense. I have to check the script's suggestions more thoroughly in the future. I'll post the author. Thanks. Ben ^T/_C 13:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:28, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Winnetou

Hi Ben. Thanks for your kind words. Just finished reading the third volume of the book so tried to read/fix related articles. Yes, I am mosty active on bg:. Keep up the good work. --5ko (85.169.40.112) 16:19, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

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Nuclear Energy

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		Thanks for your work on Nuclear energy and trying to keep NPOV alive. Jfingers88 22:34, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Tanzania

Where'd you get the info on the history of Tanzania from? It seems like a huge addition to the main page. Most main pages of countries that I have seen have short history sections. I was just wondering if it would be O.K. to move the information to the History of Tanzania page. Thanks! Darth Panda 02:06, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

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Tiger

Hi Ben,

I was reading on nuclear powers where I saw you have contributed a lot and wanted to praise you for your good work, but later decided to delete it. Are you an expert on the issue? You seem like you know a lot on this subject.

I am new with Wikipedia, just learning, I would like to contribute also in some topics, will see.

Me.. I am a college student at the Georgetown Uni., living in Alexandria, Virginia, majoring International Business, you?

Keep up the good work.

Tiger

Karl May

Interresting ... althaugh that is probably a question of the scope of that category.

Are you involved with the cs wiki? It looks like they have a lot of Karl May related pictures. Agathoclea 19:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

sensory substitution

It seems you originated the subject article.

A bit of history: in 1963 I worked for Carter Collins at the Smith-Kettlewell Eye Research Institute as did a young (then) Dr. Paul Bach-y-Rita, whom you credit with the TVSS.

I moved on to the development of the RIAS (Remote Infrared Audible Signage) and remember our excitement at starting with what clearly was a flawed premise in the area of sensory substitution. There were numerous devices before and since all of which have a mistaken set of assumptions about sensation.

However from the POV of a wikipedia editor I thought you might be interested in that history.

Love.

Answered at User talk:Love26. Ben ^T/_C 12:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

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Hitler and Siebengebirge

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You're right that I worked on both articles, but if there exists such a connection that you describe, I have no idea about it. I can only point you to Welthauptstadt Germania as new German capital and cultural center. --Ben ^T/_C 22:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. That article is about Berlin, though, not Linz. The Linz article includes a couple lines about how Hitler wanted to rebuild Linz and make it into a cultural center. It doesn't mention the hills, though.

If Hitler could see that modern art museum at the bottom of the page, he'd probably spin in his grave. :)

Interesting fact about Linz. I couldn't care less about his ashes, though. --Ben ^T/_C 09:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Adriane Knoppix nominated for deletion

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Warren G. Harding

I made changes to the Warren G. Harding paragraph in the opening you had concern over. You can look to see if you approve. Cmguy777 (talk) 04:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I made more changes to the article's opening with your suggestions in the talk page. Cmguy777 (talk) 19:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Your input in the article helped with the editing. Cmguy777 (talk) 03:15, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

It's been a pleasure. Thanks to you for your hard work to improve articles! Ben ^T/_C 14:29, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

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Fang mich doch Du Eierloch

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ich habe gesehen dass du den Artikel Kinderreim angefangen hast. Vielleicht interessiert dich auch die ausführliche Diskussion hier: [1]--Salino01 08:17, 4. Jun. 2011 (CEST)

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J.A. Pizzi - Reply

Hi there M'79, AL from Portugal "speaking",

i "defend" myself: ideally, we should have just two main sections in a player/manager storyline. If you go with CLUB CAREER and INTERNATIONAL CAREER, then coaching stuff should be inserted in whichever is the situation (a guy could be coaching a club, or a national team).

You could, however, opt by going with PLAYING CAREER and COACHING (or MANAGER) CAREER, in that way we always have two sections instead of three. Regards, happy editing --AL (talk) 13:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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A tag has been placed on Nautilus Pompilius (band) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Heute in Plankstadt

Hi, der Artikel um den es für :de geht, ist TOID, hat aber null Eile. Zu Loveholidays gibts bei :en noch keinen, insofern vermag ich nicht einzuschätzen, ob der auf :de die Relevanzhürde schaffen würde. Es gibt die Category:Hotels bzw Kategorie:Hotel und, nur bei :de, zusätzlich die Kategorie:Hotelbau. Mein Artikel zum einzigen Parish in London ist Queen’s Park (City of Westminster). Wenn ich es mal nach London schaffe, will ich mir das auch mal anschauen. Soviel fürs erste. Kallewirsch (talk) 13:04, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Immer essen? Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid!

The game from my childhood is Mille Bornes CU Kallewirsch (talk) 22:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Normal conditions

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Very much appreciate the deletion. This was my attempt to see how effective the review process is. Ben ^T/_C 17:04, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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